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White Worcestershire Sauce

From: Carol 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 7:40 PM
Subject: White steak sauce

There is/was a place in St. Louis called Jake's Steaks.  Years ago they had 
a clear/white bbq sauce and said it was made with WHITE worchestershire sauce.  
I have looked everywhere for years and years and never found such a thing.  
Any clue on the recipe and/or more importantly how to find white worchestershire 


Love & Thoughts - Carol 

Hi Carol,

There’s still a “Jake’s Steaks” in St. Louis. Their website is here: Jake's Steaks
I had no success locating an exact recipe for the Jake’s Steaks White BBQ Sauce, but I found a menu here that gives the ingredients:
Jake's Steaks Menu
White BBQ sauce (made w/White Lee & Perrins, Tabasco, cayenne pepper, & sweet pickles)
Maybe you can make an acceptable copycat with those ingredients.

I found lots of discussion on message boards about Lea & Perrins “white Worcestershire sauce.” Even though people referred to it as “white Worcestershire sauce” and also called it that in recipes, that wasn’t exactly the name for it, and they changed the name of it later, so that’s why you’re having trouble finding it. It was actually named “Lea & Perrins White Wine Worcestershire Sauce” originally, and that was later changed to “Lea & Perrins Marinade for Chicken.” It’s the same product, they just changed the name. See: Lea & Perrins

It’s a lighter blend of the classic sauce, made with Sauterne wine. If you can’t find it, you can make a substitute by mixing 1 1/2 tablespoons dry sherry, 1/2 teaspoon cider vinegar, 1/4 teaspoon sugar and 1/4 teaspoon salt.

You can buy it at Amazon:Lea & Perrins Chicken Marinade


Thompson's Sea Girt House Crab Imperial

-----Original Message----- 
From: Rich Cox
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 3:53 PM
Subject: Imperial Crab

Hi Phaed,

I grew up in Baltimore and still frequent there.  I have checked your index 
and googled for a Crab Imperial recipe that was served in a particular 
(and very popular) restaurant -- Thompson's Sea Girt House on York Road. 
I think that it closed in the 90's.

I remain a purist when it comes to blue crab preparations and have found one 
that approaches what they served there (no garlic, onion, peppers, etc.) on 
" that is very good.  Nevertheless, I wanted to check with 
you to see if the Thompson's Sea Girt recipe for Imperial crab is in your 
treasure trove.  I did find their crab cake recipe on line (it was used in 
the US Senate cafeteria);  let me know if you would like that.

Many thanks!

Rich (Durham, N.C.)

Hello Rich,

Thanks, the crab cakes recipe is here: Baltimore Sun

This description of Thompson's crab imperial from The Washingtonian says that it did contain onion and pepper:

The original crab imperial, created in the late 19th century at a Baltimore restaurant called Thompson's Sea Girt House, was a gratin of backfin lumps with a diced mixture of onions, green bell pepper, and pimiento, all bound in a thick cream sauce.

There is a recipe called "Inner Harbor Crab Imperial" in this book that the author says is the "100-year-plus-old classic first served at Thompson's Sea Girt House", and it, too, contains onions and peppers (It would have to be an updated recipe, since it calls for non-stick cooking spray.): "A Love Affair with Southern Cooking: Recipes and Recollections" By Jean Anderson

I don't have, and could not find, any other crab imperial recipe that claimed to be Thompson's recipe. Sorry.


Flying Dutchman Shrimp Salad

From: Linda 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:32 PM
Subject: Flying Dutchman Shrimp Salad

Hello Uncle Phaedrus,

I have tried to find the recipe to "Shrimp Salad" from the Flying Dutchman Restaurant 
in Kemah, Texas. It was served on a bed of lettuce with a single shrimp topped on top. 
It was a pinkish color and have a tangy flavor to it.

It has been the best tasting shrimp salad I have ever had.

The restaurant is no longer the Flying Dutchman. it is another name restaurant that 
does not have the shrimp salad I'm looking for.

I do believe The Flying Dutchman sold out shortly after Hurricane Ike hit Galveston, 
Texas which destroyed a lot of Kemah, Texas as well.   

"Health, Prosperity & Life to You"

Hi Linda,

Well, The Flying Dutchman Restaurant & Oyster Bar” appears to be alive and well in Kemah. However, they are now owned by Landry’s, who also have a Landry’s Seafood Restaurant on or near the Boardwalk in Kemah. The Flying Dutchman has a 2012 website here: The Flying Dutchman
The Kemah Boardwalk website is here: The Kemah Boardwalk

The current Flying Dutchman’s menu describes their shrimp salad like this:
Shrimp Salad . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Old fashioned shrimp salad with diced shrimp, chopped eggs, celery, onions and mayonnaise, served chilled

I could not say whether the shrimp salad served there is similar to that served at the original Flying Dutchman, but with a Landry’s just around the corner, I’d think it would at least be different from the shrimp salad served at Landry’s. I could not locate a shrimp salad recipe that claimed to be from or similar to that served by either the original Flying Dutchman or the current restaurant.

I’ll post this on the site – perhaps a reader can help. Keep checking the site, just in case.


HEB Rotisserie Chicken Salad

From: Kelsey 
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:22 PM
Subject: Real HEB rotisserie chicken salad

I'm looking for a copycat recipe for the H.E.B. Rotisserie Chicken Salad.  
The recipe they have listed online is NOT correct. 
The actual chicken salad they make doesn't have most of those ingredients 
in it and is totally delicious.  
Their chicken salad is amazing and I would love to make it myself.

Please help me!! 

Thanks so much!

Austin, TX

Hello Kelsey,

Sorry, there does not appear to be a recipe or a copycat available for the HEB deli rotisserie chicken salad. There are several requests for the recipe on various message boards, and no one has been successful. As you say, the chicken salad recipes on the HEB website are not the same as the product that they sell in their deli.


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