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From: Ray
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 10:58 AM
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com
Subject: Boring the Grandchildren
If I had any, about superseded food matters, worked up into a monologue when
I could corner the kids. Not so much the food as the associated technology.
But lacking kids, I write a question here. I've got friends I can get at,
even if no offspring, the more material I can get together the longer I can
talk.
Lately, on the very threshold of septuagenarianism, I was thinking of things
"no longer to be seen." My collection included: cork linings of bottle
caps, pull-off soda/beer tabs, wax-coated milk cartons, margarine you had to
knead the color into, and just today a recall of how coffee cans used to be
opened with a little key that pulled a strip of metal off all around the
top. And the question came to me, and a little research did not tell me,
just when did coffee stop coming packed that way?
Dear, distant days! A lot more gone by than I've got left...
Very dry here, although the summer's been without any extended HHH spells.
Yet.
Ray
Hi Ray,
Your questions are always thought-provoking and always welcome. I'm a few
years behind you getting to septuagenarianism - not many, though.
I remember those coffee cans and how they sighed when the seal first broke
and air went rushing in. I remember that occasionally, the strip or tab
would break prematurely and I had to complete the opening of the can by
gripping the end of the strip with a pair of pliers.
I could not find solid information about the evolution of coffee containers.
This person apparently had a similar experience:
My Country Life
With no more reliable source available, I'll have to wing it from memory...
It seems to me that those coffee cans with keys faded away at about the time
that electric can openers became popular. That makes sense, I suppose. I
remember that when the cans with the key became unavailable, and I did not
have an electric opener, then I had to open my new can of coffee with one of
those manual can openers that you twisted round and round as it traversed
the circumference of the can. A plastic lid was provided for keeping your
coffee (somewhat) fresh after opening. I think this was also about the time
when percolators became extinct and were replaced by drip coffee makers.
A "Mr. Coffee" was the first that I remember owning, although there may have
been earlier ones - Melitta, perhaps. It seems to me that these changes occurred
in the seventies. The next step, from mostly cans to mostly bags, occurred in
- the eighties? I'm not sure. I recall that for a time, I kept one of the old
Folger's cans and plastic lids, and I dumped my bag of coffee into the empty
can whenever I bought a new one. A lot of people had coffee "canisters", but
I was never quick to buy such things when I already had a perfectly fine Folger's
can handy.
I do recall the cork-lined bottle caps, but not the margarine in which the
color came separately. Perhaps my family only used real butter at the time.
I remember the wax-coated milk cartons and how one occasionally refused to
open properly. I have fond memories of the first soda in a can that I had.
It was a "Royal Crown Cola". I still think that the cokes in the short green
glass bottles tasted better than the "King Size" or the later product sold in
cans and plastic bottles although I think that's mostly due to the sweetener
used then rather than the type of bottle used. The first soda cans were quite
thick and had to be opened with a "church-key". One had to have a strong grip
to crush one of those cans with one hand. The thinner aluminum cans came later.
I remember a lot of concern about fish and birds swallowing those pull-off
tabs from the aluminum cans before they were replaced with the ones we now
have that stay with the can.
We had heavy storms and even some hail here yesterday. Hoping for a couple
of consecutive dry days so that I can mow without leaving tire tracks in the
low spots of the yard. It's been a very mild summer. I hope that doesn't
portend a bad winter. I've read that the mildness is due to our having
several large volcano eruptions around the world in recent months, spewing a
lot of sun-light-blocking ash in the upper atmosphere. I recall something
similar occurring one summer in the 1990s, when Mount Pinatubo blew its top
and flooded the upper atmosphere with ash.
Phaed
From: Sheila
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 11:02 PM
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com
Subject: Looking for recipe
Hi,
I'm looking for the Hillstone (formerly Houston's) cole slaw recipe with tarragon.
Thank you!
Sheila
Hello Sheila,
Hillstone Restaurant Group changed the name of some of their Houston’s locations to Hillstone, but not all.
They’re still Houston’s in several cities.
Houston’s has given out their coleslaw recipe freely. It’s been published in newspapers. See these sites:
Sun-Sentinel
Washington Post
Epicurus
However, there is no tarragon in either the slaw or the dressing. I could not find any indication that
Houston’s or Hillstone’s coleslaw contains any tarragon. None of the recipes or copycats for Houston’s
coleslaw has any tarragon. I checked a dozen or so Hillstone’s and Houston’s menus on line, and the only
description that I found on any of them is that their coleslaw dressing is called “Ding’s Dressing”.
I could not find a recipe or an ingredient listing for “Ding’s Dressing.” I did find a couple of descriptive
statements about it. One called it a “relish” and the other said it contained “lots of dill.”. The recipe
that Houston’s provided to the public contains dill pickle relish. I did not find any mention that it ever
contained any tarragon.
The only Houston’s or Hillstone’s dressing recipe that I could find containing tarragon was the below
“Houston’s Chef’s Dressing”, which is apparently the dressing used on their chef salad.
Phaed
Houston’s Chef's Dressing
1 quart mayonnaise
8 oz. anchovies, lightly drained
1.0 oz garlic, peeled & minced
1/4 tsp. cayenne pepper
1/2 cup chives (ends removed,minced med.)
3/4 cup parsley (chopped medium fine by hand)
1/4 cup fresh tarragon (chopped medium)
1/2 tsp. ground black pepper
1/4 cup fresh lemon juice
Place first 4 ingredients in Cuisinart and process until small pieces of anchovy appear.
Remove processed ingredients and place into bowl. Stir in all remaining ingredients except lemon juice.
Allow to sit in refrigerator for at least 8 hours.
Add lemon juice when you are ready to serve.
The herbs are the secret to this and they must be fresh.
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Thank you, Phaedrus !
I love that chef's salad recipe! I'll try it on coleslaw but it looks like a keeper either way!
Sheila
From: Cathy
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:31 PM
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com
Subject: Nestle Quick cookie
Hi, my mother has been searching for this lost recipe for chocolate cookies made with Nestle’s Quick powder (not cocoa).
She made these in the 60’s when I was a kid. The original recipe was on the Nestle Quick tin. She doesn’t remember if
they were rolled into balls or a drop cookie, but she does remember they were topped with granulated sugar which then
formed a “crackled” top. No other ingredients stand out that she can remember beyond the normal cookie dough basics.
They were light chocolate colored and light chocolate tasting (just like the Nestle Quick) and they were a chewy cookie
that stayed nice and didn’t get hard too fast ( one reason she liked keeping them on hand in the cookie jar) Us kids
loved them and so did she, the light chocolate taste made them easy to pop into your mouth one after the other J.
She even tried writing to Nestle’s thinking they of all people would know, but no luck.
Thanks!
Cathy
Hi Cathy,
I can’t find a recipe that fits your description. I searched by “Nestles’ Quik Cookies” and “Cookies made with Nestles’ Quik”.
I’ll post this on the site. maybe a reader can help.
Phaed
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Thanks to all who sent recipe suggestions for this request, but the only suggestion so far that appears to be close to Cathy's
description of "topped with granulated sugar which then formed a 'crackled' top" is the one below.
Hi Phaed,
In your 9-8-14 edition, Cathy asked about Nestle Quik Cookies. The following recipe is from my mother's recipe box.
I have no idea if it is the one off the tin or not but it sounds similar. Sometimes Mom would add nuts or chocolate chips to them.
Regards,
Lisa
Chocolate Cookies
Ingredients
1 c butter
1/3 c sugar
3/4 c brown sugar, packed
1 egg
2 tsp vanilla extract
2 1/4 c flour
2 Tbsp Nestle's Quik
1 tsp baking soda
1/2 tsp salt
1/4 c sugar for rolling.
Instructions
Mix butter and sugars until light and creamy.
Add in egg and vanilla.
Sift together flour, Nestles, baking soda and salt.
Add 1/3 of the flour mixture at a time to the batter, stirring well after each time.
Refrigerate batter for an hour.
Roll into a ball and coat in sugar.
(I use a small scoop to speed up the process)
Bake at 375 degrees F for 10-12 min. or until set, when edges of cookies start to flatten or deflate.
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