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Cotton Patch Soup

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Terry 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:59 PM
Subject: Cotton Patch Restaurant Recipes

Dr. Phaedrus...Searching for "cotton patch chicken tortilla soup"

Thanks. Terry

Hello Terry,

Sorry, no luck. That recipe does not appear to be available and no one seems to have created a copycat.

Phaed


Delores Drive In Hamburgers

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan " 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: Dolores Hamburgers

There was a famous hamburger drive-in on the corner of Wilshire and La  
Cienega in Los Angeles when I was growing up called Dolores.
They had a memorable hamburger with a tomato-based hamburger sauce on  
it. I have been unable to find the recipe on the internet.
Maybe, you can help.

Thank you in advance.

Dan

Hello Dan,

I found a few mentions of Dolores' Drive-In, but no recipes. Sorry.

Phaed

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Timm sent this recipe:

I lived near L.A over 40 years ago and used to go to Delores.’ If I remember correctly, 
I think they called the sauce “Z-Sauce.”  They used it on the "Delores Super Burger" and 
on their double burger. About 10 years ago, I search the internet for the “Z-Sauce” and 
found this recipe. I have not tried it yet, so I am not sure how close it really is.
Timm in Oregon

Z Sauce Clone

Ingredients:
2 cups cucumbers, peeled, seeded diced small
1 medium size yellow onion, finely diced
1 medium size green pepper, finely diced
1 medium size red pepper or yellow pepper, finely diced
1 celery stalk, finely diced 
1 tablespoon pickling salt 
1/2 teaspoon turmeric 
3 cups cold water 
1 cinnamon stick 
12 whole cloves 
1/4 teaspoon ground allspice
2 cups cider vinegar 
2 cups red tomatoes, peeled, seeded and diced
1 cup sugar 
2 teaspoons mustard seeds 
 
Instructions:

In a big stainless steel bowl, mix the cucumbers, onion, peppers, celery, salt, 
turmeric and water. Let sit for 12 hours or overnight, then drain in a strainer; 
lightly pressing out any excess liquid and then set aside. 

Tie up the cinnamon, cloves and allspice in some cheesecloth. 

In a big stainless steel saucepan, bring the spices and vinegar to a boil over medium heat. 

Reduce the heat to low and simmer, uncovered for about 15 minutes. Add the tomatoes, 
increase the heat and bring the mixture to a boil, then reduce the heat to low and 
simmer, partially covered until the tomatoes resemble a puree, about 30 minutes. 
Add the sugar and mustard seeds, cover and let stand overnight at room temperature. 

Next day, add the drained vegetables to the tomato mixture and bring to a boil over 
medium-high heat and then lower the heat to low and simmer, uncovered until most of 
the liquid has evaporated, 25 to 30 minutes and then take out the cheese wrapped spices. 

Use right away or preserve the sauce in jars using the water-bath method.

Chicken de Panna

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Judi 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 4:05 PM

hi , i was wondering if you could possibly get the recipe from cheesecake factory 
called chicken de panna . thank you   judi 

Hello Judi,

Sorry, the Cheesecake Factory is one of those places that does not give out recipes, and no one appears to have created a copycat for this.

Phaed


Oatmeal Raisin Cookies

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Karen 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: Oatmeal Raisin cookie

I just found your site and it is wonderful!!!  What fun to see all the old, lost recipes.

I am looking for the recipe for a chewy/crunchy oatmeal raisin cookie.  My daughter-in-law 
gets them at Willowbrook Memorial Hospital (when she has had a baby) and is hooked on them. 
Would love to surprise her.  She also got them at Texas Women's Hospital, so I think they 
must be supplied by the concession company.  They are crispy on the outside but very moist 
and chewy on the inside.

Thanks for the help and thanks for the site. Karen

Hi Karen,

Wish I could help, but I cannot find any recipes from either of those hospitals, or any mention of the particular oatmeal raisin cookies served at those hospitals. There are dozens of oatmeal raisin cookies recipes on the Internet, but any search for that particular recipe is going to require more information.

Phaed


Tapioca Dream

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eva 
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:11 PM
Subject: Looking for Tapioca Dream

My older brother remembers a tapioca dish that was called Tapioca Dream, he says it 
had an egg in it, that was somehow incorporated after the tapioca was cooked, it also 
had cream I printed the Tapioca recipes from the site, but the one close to it, isn't it!
I would have been 6 the last time it was made by my mother, and the recipe would have 
come from the package, I'm in Canada so don't know if the stuff would have been the same 
package as in the US or not, it would have been a box, but beyond that I can't say what 
the brand name might have been! 

What my brother describes to me, it seems as if there were fruit added as well, canned 
pineapple in particular (crushed) and I don't think it was baked after only allowed to 
cool for eating. 

I do hope you can help, and I do enjoy your site as I have found several things on it but 
this one simply escapes me. 

Eva

Hello Eva,

Below are the only two recipes that I could find with the name "tapioca dream". However, the first recipe below, with the name "pineapple tapioca", sounds more like what you describe, except that it has milk rather than cream. Note also that the egg is cooked into the dish. I try not to send out recipes incorporating raw eggs added after cooking due to the possibility of food-borne illness.

Phaed

Pineapple  Tapioca    

8 oz. can crushed pineapple
Milk
1 lg. egg, separated
3 tbsp. instant tapioca
1/8 tsp. salt
5 tbsp. sugar

Drain pineapple over a pint measure.  Add enough milk to juice to make 2 cups. 
In a medium bowl, beat egg white until foamy. Gradually beat in 2 tablespoons 
sugar until whites hold soft peaks.  In 1 1/2 quart saucepan, vigorously stir 
together remaining 3 tablespoons sugar, tapioca, salt, juice/milk mixture, and 
egg yolk.  Cook over moderate heat, stirring constantly, until boiling (6 to 8 minutes). 
Gradually stir into egg white; fold in drained pineapple.  Turn into dessert dishes 
and chill.  Makes 4 to 6 (2 1/2 cup) servings.
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Tapioca Dream 

3/4 cup pearled tapioca 

Put into top of double boiler; add cold water to cover. Let stand overnight. 
In the morning, put enough water into bottom of boiler for cooking, plus 2 cups 
more water and bring to boil. Meanwhile, pour tapioca into colander; rinse top 
of boiler. Run cold water over tapioca and return to boiler. Add 2 cups boiling 
water from bottom pan. Cover. Cook without stirring until clear, about 1 hour. 
Add 1/2 cup sugar. Cook until, dissolved, stirring occasionally (about 5 minutes.) 
Remove from heat. Add 1 teaspoon vanilla. Let cool. Refrigerate. To serve, take 1/2 cup 
tapioca and add generous teaspoon of Cool Whip or other whipped topping, and fruit 
of your choice, for each serving. 
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Tapioca Dream

3/4 cup pearled tapioca 
1/2 cup sugar 
1 tsp vanilla 

Put into top of double boiler; add cold water to cover. Let stand 
overnight. In the morning, put enough water into bottom of boiler for 
cooking, plus 2 cups more water and bring to boil. Meanwhile, pour 
tapioca into colander; rinse top of boiler. 

Run cold water over tapioca and return to boiler. Add 2 cups boiling 
water from bottom pan. Cover. Cook without stirring until clear, about 
1 hour. 

Add sugar. Cook until, dissolved, stirring occasionally (about 5 
minutes.) Remove from heat. Add 1 teaspoon vanilla. Let cool. 
Refrigerate. 

To serve, take 1/2 cup tapioca and add generous teaspoon of Cool Whip 
or other whipped topping, and fruit of your choice, for each serving.
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These both sound a bit younger than my recipe but they are much like described, 
so maybe they are newer versions of the old recipe. When these were being made 
it was the late 1950's and things like cool whip and dream whip were simply not 
used in recipes much. They might have been available in the Lower 48 but not up 
here in the wilds of northern Canada! Heck we barely had Philadelphia Cream Cheese! 
Getting a package of Velveeta cheese was a big treat, along with Baby Ingersol Roll, 
at that time we still had a cheese cutter in the grocery store and the cheese was 
in large wheels that was placed in the cutter, and chunks were cut off by the butcher! 

Thank you for finding the ones you've found and if anyone out there has the recipe 
off the package of the tapioca I hope they write in with it! Just to see if its the 
same one! 

Eva
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From: Eva 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:32 PM
To: Phaedrus 
Subject: A recipe found

Dear Phaedrus,
several years ago I asked you for a recipe for Tapioca Dream, you couldn't find it, 
and gave me several other recipes for a similar tapioca dish. 
Well the other day someone was talking about a Fanny Farmer cookbook that was online and downloadable in pdf format. 
While looking through the book I came across the recipe. 
Its called Tapioca CREAM, I didn't copy the recipe out, but can if you would like it! But there is a 
vast source of old recipes online apparently, including this one. 
Unfortunately I found it to late to make it for my brother who remembered it fondly as he died in 2009. 
But I thank you profusely for trying to find what his memory said was dream when it was cream!
Eva

Hello Eva,

It’s not necessary to send me the recipe. Fannie Farmer’s 1918 recipe is in lots of places on the Internet. See below. I must say, Eva, that I would never have thought this was the correct recipe. Not only is the name different, but Fannie Farmer’s recipe for “Tapioca Cream” does not have the cream or the pineapple that you mentioned in your request, and there are two eggs instead of one, used somewhat differently than you described. Note also that this recipe has raw egg whites in it, which pose a salmonella danger. My condolences for the loss of your brother.

Phaed

Tapioca Cream from the 1918 Fannie Farmer Cookbook

1/4 cup pearl tapioca or 1 1/2 tablespoons minute tapioca    
2 eggs
1/3 cup sugar
2 cups scalded milk    
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon vanilla

Pick over tapioca and soak one hour in cold water to cover, drain, add to milk, and cook in double boiler until tapioca is transparent. 
Add half the sugar to milk and remainder to egg yolks slightly beaten, and salt. Combine by pouring hot mixture slowly on egg mixture, 
return to double boiler, and cook until it thickens. Remove from range and add whites of eggs beaten stiff. Chill and flavor. 

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