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From: Alan
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 4:16 PM
Subject: Re:- Rumalty Thump.

Dear Phaedrus, just after the war mum went into hospital for a hysterectomy.  
Dad was a traditional Scot, knew absolutely nothing of the kitchen ( woman's world), 
so from enjoying her delicious cooking his two sons were now subjected for ten days of horrible fare.  
Embarrassed at the quality of his 10-year old sons' attempts at cooking he said one day "boys when 
I was your age in Auchtermuchty (about 1898) on a Sunday we had a special treat  ..sometimes skirley, 
sometimes rumalty thump "  ....I've tried your recipe for the former ",, but can you trace the latter please ?   

sincerely alan 

Hello Alan,

Liked the story. Dishes like rumbledethumps and bubble and squeak are quite tasty, 'stick-to your-ribs" food.

It’s usually spelled “rumble thumps”, “rumblethumps”, “rumbledethumps”, or “rumble de thumps”.

Rumbledethumps is a traditional Scottish dish from the Scottish/English border. The main ingredients are potato, cabbage, onion, and sometimes (but not always) cheese. It’s quite similar to Irish “colcannon”, and English “bubble and squeak.”

There’s a photo here:


And photos and recipes on these sites:

Garden of Eating


British Food at About

Scottish Recipes

Plain Cook 2


Sugar Waffle Iron

From: Sandy 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 12:17 PM
Subject: fair wsugar waffel irons

would lkie to order waffel iron from you and get hte recipie from you please sned me information. thanks

Hi Sandy,

Sandy, I don’t sell these. They are also called “rosette irons”. King Arthur Flour sells them. See:

Rosette Set at King Arthur

They also have a recipe with photos here:



Tomato Onion Pie

From: Scott 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:53 PM
Subject: tomato onion pie

looking for a tomato pie recipe, may be from morrison's, has tomatoes, onions, cheese, 
a white sauce or broth might or might not have bacon involved.

Thanks,  Scott

Hello Scott,

My copy of the Morrison’s Kitchen manual doesn’t have any sort of tomato pie recipe in it, but there are well over a dozen tomato pie recipes in our files and more on the internet. They all contain tomatoes, cheese and onions. The key to finding a specific recipe is specific clues. What kind of onions? Green onions, vidalias, or plain white or yellow onions? What kind of cheese? Cheddar, Swiss, mozzarella, gruyere, or...? What kind of crust?

I found them with a bread crumb crust and with a pie shell crust, bisquick and hungry jack canned biscuits crusts. The white sauce, from the recipes that I looked at, is probably mayonnaise. There are several recipes below. The only one that I found with bacon in our files is the first one. There are other tomato pie recipes with more of an Italian slant, but those didn’t sound right. These are pretty typical.


Tomato Pie

12 slices bacon
3 lg. tomatoes, sliced (enough to fill shell)
1 (9") deep dish pastry shell, baked 
8 green onions, chopped

Fry bacon; drain and crumble.  Arrange tomato slices in pastry shell, place chopped onions and crumbled bacon on top. 
Add topping.  Bake at 350 degrees for 30 minutes.  Yield: 6 servings. 
1 1/2 c. grated extra sharp cheddar cheese
1 1/2 c. mayonnaise

Mix cheese and mayonnaise together.  Spread topping evenly over top of pie. Yield: 3 cups. 
Tomato Pie

1 c. Bisquick
1/4 c. water
1 tbsp. butter
4-5 med. tomatoes
1 c. shredded Cheddar cheese
1/2 c. mayonnaise
1-2 green onions
2 tbsp. fresh parsley

Mix Bisquick mix, water and soft butter with fork and press into a 9 inch pie dish.  
Layer tomatoes, peeled and sliced 1/2 inch thick on crust.  Sprinkle Cheddar cheese on top.  
Mix mayonnaise, onions and parsley; spread over cheese.  Bake at 350 degrees for 30 minutes.  
Lower half of oven.  Make sure it bubbles on edges.  
Tomato Pie

2 c. fresh bread cubes
1/4 c. margarine or butter, melted
1 c. shredded Cheddar cheese
1 pt. canned tomatoes
1 tbsp. cornstarch
2 tsp. chopped onions
1 tsp. salt
1 tsp. sugar
2 eggs, beaten
3/4 c. milk

Combine bread, margarine and 1/4 cup cheese. Press into a 9 inch pie plate, bake at 400 degrees for 10 minutes or until lightly browned.  
Cool. Drain liquid from tomatoes into saucepan, blend in cornstarch. Add onion, salt and sugar. Cook, stirring constantly until thickened.  
Add tomatoes, milk and remaining cheese, blend well.  Pour over top of baked bread.  Bake at 375 degrees for 40 minutes.  
Cool 10 minutes before slicing.   

Tomato Pie

1 pie shell, baked and cooled
1/2 tsp. salt
1/2 tsp. basil
1/2 c. mayonnaise
3 med. tomatoes, peeled and thickly sliced
1/4 tsp. pepper
1/4 c. onions, chopped
2 c. cheese, grated

Bake pie shell for 5 minutes at 450 degrees.  Reduce heat to 400 degrees.  Slice tomatoes and arrange in cooled pie shell.  
Combine salt, basil, pepper and onion and sprinkle over tomatoes.  Mix mayonnaise and cheese and spread over to seal pie shell.  
Bake 35 minutes until cheese is melted and slightly browned.  


A few weeks ago, someone wrote to me regarding "shrubs". The reply at that time didn't call for any shrub recipes, so I thought I'd post some for the curious.

"Shrubs" are a type of beverage usually made with ingredients that include fruit or fruit juice, sugar, and vinegar. They were very popular in years gone by, before the advent of soda pop. In Colonial times, they often contained alcohol such as brandy or rum, but nowadays they are usually non-alcoholic. Raspberry shrubs are popular, but you could use blackberries, grapes, or other fruits or berries. "Switchel" and "gingerwater" are similar types of beverages. Beverages made with vinegar(acetic acid) are not so unusual sounding when you consider that most of our non-alcoholic beverages contain copious amounts of citric acid or phosphoric acid. See:

Ginger Water


There are shrub recipes below and on these sites:

12 Bottle Bar

Cook Local

Living the Frugal Life

LA Times Blogs

Raspberry  Shrub

Place red raspberries in a stone jar, cover them with good cider vinegar, let stand overnight; next morning, strain, 
and to one pint of juice add one pint of sugar, boil ten minutes, and bottle while hot.
Raspberry  Shrub


 Raspberry Shrub is easy to make from wild or cultivated berries.  Any desired amount may be used, but 4 quarts at a time is convenient.  
 Place raspberries in a large kettle. Cover with just enough vinegar so that the berries will not float.  Allow the mixture to stand overnight.  
 In the morning squeeze mixture through a cheesecloth.  For each cup of strained liquid, add 1 cup sugar; boil for 20 minutes.  Bottle when cool.  
 Store in cool place.  To serve, put into a glass as much of the raspberry shrub as you would use of concentrated grape juice; 
 then fill the glass with ice cold water or cracked ice.
Raspberry  Shrub

4 qts. raspberries
1 qt. vinegar

Add vinegar to berries and let stand 4 days.  Strain.  To each pint of juice add 1 pint of sugar (2 cups).  Boil 20 minutes.  
Bottle and keep in a cool place. Add 1 tablespoon to a glass of water. 

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