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Mama Rizzo's Pasta Sauce

From: mikee 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:26 AM
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Subject: Re: Mama Rizzo's

Hello! 
I've enjoyed your recipe site. I was hoping you have or could find an exact or
copy cat recipe for mama rizzo's spaghetti sauce/marinara sauce/pasta sauce. 
I really miss this sauce I use to buy in a jar for my pasta!!!  
Please let me know and thanks.  
Mike

Hello Mike,

Mama Rizzo’s was the creation of Steve and Mary Ann Yamin, and was based in Houston, Texas. It does nor appear to be related to any of the “Rizzo’s” or “Mama Rizzo’s” Italian restaurants in other parts of the country. Mama Rizzo’s had financial problems in the 90s, as did their various owners. There were several bankruptcies. It does not appear, as far as I can determine, that Mama Rizzo’s was able to recover from these problems. I can’t find any indication that they are still in business. I had no success locating any recipe, copycat or otherwise for their sauce.

You might try the sauce recipe here, which was created by another Mama Rizzo’s fan: Favorite Recipes

Phaed


Stouffer's Noodles Romanoff

From: mikee 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 10:27 PM
To: Phaedrus 
Subject: Re: Mama Rizzo's Pasta Sauce

Thank you very much. I'm going to try her recipe.  I thought maybe there 
was alcohol in it!  Other items I miss are Stouffer's frozen noodles romanoff 
and Lawry's pot roast seasoning, which I can't find anymore. I don't know 
why they stop making items that are really good!!!  
If you have these recipes or any info, please let me know and thanks again! 

Hello Mike,

It’s rare as hen’s teeth to find any of the actual recipes for commercial products like these, and even if you did, they’re made by industrial processes with commercial ingredients that you can’t obtain. Best you can hope for is a “taste’s like” recipe. See these sites for “taste’s like” recipes for Stouffer’s Noodles Romanoff:

Roger M Wilcox 2nd recipe

Recipe Exchange

Yahoo

No luck at all with Lawry's Pot Roast Seasoning.

Phaed


Sara Lee Streusel Coffee Cake

From: Jerri 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:05 PM
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Subject: two lost recipes

HI,  

I have been searching for two recipes.....

1) Sara Lee Streusel Coffee cake---a classic and I simply can't find 
anything like it.  I think it is a yeast bread with streusel and some walnuts....
the recipe would be fantastic.

Thank you for any help you can give me!

Sincerely,

Jerri H.

Hi Jerri,

Well, these are both commercial products. One almost never sees commercial recipes on the internet or in any publicly accessible form. The main reason is that commercial recipes are practically useless to a home cook. Sara Lee and Stop and Shop make their batter for these products in large quantities using large amounts of ingredients in large capacity commercial mixers and they use commercial ingredients that you might not even be able to obtain. Therefore, the best you can usually do is to look for a “copycat” or “tastes like” recipe. This type of recipe is not the commercial recipe, nor is it usually even based on the commercial recipe. It may not even contain exactly the same ingredients as the commercial recipe. It is a home recipe either purposely created to taste like the commercial product or a recipe that someone believes to taste like the commercial product.

There are such recipes for Sara Lee Streusel Coffee Cake on these sites and below:

The Kitchn

Recipe Exchange

Phaed

San Angelo Coffee Cake

2 cups sifted flour
3 tsp baking powder
1/4 cup sugar
3/4 tsp salt
1/4 Spry (shortening)
1/4 cake yeast
3/4 cup milk, lukewarm
1 egg, well beaten

Topping:
2 Tbs butter
1 Tbs flour
4 Tbs brown sugar
1 tsp cinnamon
4 TBS chopped nuts

Mix flour, sugar, salt, baking powder with Spry(shortening). 
Crumble yeast into warm milk.
When dissolved, add to flour mixture. Mix Well. Put dough 
into pan greased with Spry (shortening)
Sprinkle pecan topping over top and press into dough.

Chef Anderson suggests: Bake 325 degrees for 25 minutes.

“This one tastes better than Sara Lee’s streusel coffee cake! – Chef Anderson”

From: “Recipes Of A Pitchfork Ranch Hostess: The Culinary Legacy of Mamie Burns”
 by Cathryn A. Buesseler, L. E. Anderson 

Stop and Shop Date Nut Bread

From: Jerri 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:05 PM
To: phaedrus@hungrybrowser.com 
Subject: two lost recipes

HI,  

I have been searching for two recipes.....

2) Stop and Shop date and nut bread.  I remember it as dark, gooey 
and very rich....I would love to find the recipe!!

Thank you for any help you can give me!

Sincerely,

Jerri H.

Hi Jerri,

This is also a commercial recipe, and I had even less success with it than with the other one. I did find a date nut bread recipe on the Stop and Shop website. See below.

However, this recipe had no provenance other than simply being on a website using the Stop and Shop name. It may be a home version of the date nut bread that they sell in their store or it may be an altogether different recipe. Grocery stores often put recipes on their websites, but that’s no indication that they are recipes for the products that they sell.

This is the only recipe for date nut bread that I could find with any indication of a connection with Stop & Shop. I could not find any copycat or tastes-like recipes for the date nut bread.

Phaed

Stop and Shop

Date Nut Bread

Ingredients
2 cups unbleached all-purpose flour
2 tsp baking powder
1 tsp salt
1/2 cup packed dark brown sugar
1 egg
1 cup milk
1/2 tsp vanilla extract
2 tbsp unsalted butter, melted and cooled slightly
1 cup coarsely chopped pitted dried dates
1/2 cup chopped walnuts

Preheat the oven to 350° F. Butter a 9 x 5 x 3 inch loaf pan and set aside.

In a large bowl, sift together the flour, baking powder, and salt. 
Stir in the brown sugar.

Place the egg in a mixing bowl and beat until light and fluffy. 
Stir in the milk, vanilla, and melted butter, mixing until blended. 
Stir this mixture into the sifted dry ingredients, mixing thoroughly. 
Fold in the chopped dates and nuts.

Spoon the batter into the prepared pan and bake about 40 minutes, 
or until the bread begins to pull away from the sides of the pan 
and the center is done when tested. Let cool in the pan.

Yield: Makes 1 Large Loaf
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 THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!  These are fantastic recipes----and 
 give me a beginning to work with....the coffee cake one looks 
 perfect----the ingredients and process really seem to be the 
 basis of what I was looking for.

Brilliant...you are simply brilliant!

best, Jerri